Ten Ways Shorts: Cryonics?

by Moin Uddin Ahmed Tipu

Can life after death be achieved through cryonics? Dr. Robert White discusses the viability of cryonic preservation on The Science Channel’s “10 Ways to Meet a Monster.”

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Ice November 20, 2008 - 10:52 AM

That was a very lame attempt to make cryonics look silly. The short answer is human embryos have already been frozen little brains and all to liquid nitrogen temperatures…in effect frozen solid no signs of life. and have been thawed with no damage…in fact they are alive and well as adults today…so try again science channel!

RoboDouche July 16, 2009 - 8:14 AM

Wow. I'm amazed this went to air. What a joke.

Yes, cryonics will likely not work if we wish to reanimate dead tissue, but that's NOT the plan. It's about preserving the fine molecular structure of the brain so future technology (probably nanotech) can either repair the damage or more likely create a copy of that structure in a NEW body or sophisticated computer simulation of some kind.

It's stupid not to back up your files… and it's stupid not to back up your brain.

Ice July 25, 2009 - 2:05 PM

Just because they call them selves the science channel surely doesnt mean they understand science fundamentaly. They understand movie making maybe. This channel is full of garbage that doesnt even approach scientific method…Its sad and a reflection of why people are loosing critical thinking skills…The show serves to dumb people down and spoon feed them with emotional knee jerk responce. Not very scientific at all.

Ice December 20, 2009 - 9:55 AM

I have answered you before as to why frostbite is a non issue…why do you just rant negatively about what you dont understand.? What is your motivation? If you have such an interest in the subject why dont you try and learn a little about it? Do you know what molecular nanotechnology is? How about multipotent stem cells? information theoretic death? If you dont then you really have no knowledge about what you are trying to slam. Do you even know the pathophysiology of frostbite?

Ice January 5, 2010 - 6:28 AM

Frostbite is a result of reperfussion after rewarming….To rewarm with todays technology would result in frostbite like damage only we would be reviving in a very advanced molecular nanotechnology based world where disease, aging, and freezing damage would be completely reversed by definition.

Datan0de January 14, 2010 - 5:44 AM

What an incredibly ill-informed video! Dr. White doesn't appear to have done even basic research on what cryonic suspension ACTUALLY involves before he dismissed it out of hand.

The state of the art in cryonics is vitrification, a process which displaces most of the inter- and intra-cellular water with cryoprotectants that don't freeze, but rather become a non-crystalline glass. No water=no ice crystals.

Also, they don't use freon, and neural structure ISN'T lost after 5 min of ischemia.

Jordan Sparks January 21, 2010 - 11:50 PM

This video is such uninformed garbage.

brian sedlock August 16, 2010 - 4:09 AM

@DK0526 What exactly is nanotechnology?

Ice August 17, 2010 - 8:40 PM

@67nairb see "molecular nanotechnology on wikipedia" but it is the idea that we can manipulate molecules very precisely on the scale of nanometers. Combine this with the idea that we can use convergent assembly to do this exponentialy and you have a technology that borders on magic in so much as the incredible things you can do with matter. The idea is supported by the fact that life itself uses this technology to turn dirt into strawberries for instance. Please see wikipedia for a better explan

Ice August 17, 2010 - 8:45 PM

@DK0526 imagine building tiny robotic machines on the molecular scale that build things on that scale and build more of them selves. after a while because of exponential growth you have trillions and trillions of machines working in union to form any structure from a bird to a tree or a house or a car or a human body bit by bit. Sounds fantastic but this is the reciepe for life as acted out every day. Nanotech is comming soon to man because of Moore's Law. Nanotech validates cryonics!

brian sedlock August 18, 2010 - 9:28 AM

@DK0526 Pretty heavy stuff, but I'll look into it and log to Wickipedia.

The Major September 4, 2010 - 11:56 PM

@DK0526 actually embryos would die if frozen and the heated up again. but eggs and sperm is actually possible to freeze down without major damages to them.
It has to do with water. when the water in cells cool down to temperatures 0 degrees or lower it turns into ice which is lighter than water but yet so much bigger destroying cell structures and when thawed the water would destroy the DNA molecule which is highly reactive to water.

Ice September 5, 2010 - 8:25 AM

@livedandletdie The is incorrect embryos are in fact and have been cooled to far less the 0 degrees (all the way down to liquid nitrogen temps) and have been completely thawed to human body temp when inplanted into women to grow into normal healthy humans. This has happened many times…do some more research or look it up and you will see this is true.

Ice September 9, 2010 - 6:20 AM

@SucidalBitch6 another common public misconception about cryonics!

Ice September 9, 2010 - 6:21 AM

@Theodorus5 True many anti-cryonics posters do so without any scientific merit what-so-ever!

Trystan February 15, 2011 - 4:37 AM

To bad I can only dislike this one once. This is a bunch of crap. Before you discredit Cryonics do not look on YouTube, go to the Cryonics Institute Or Alcore websites. Then if you still think it is nonsense atleast you will have learned something.

Elround4 February 27, 2013 - 11:45 PM

I'd like a brain backup. ^^ What is the likelihood, that as death defined by heart failure has been replaced with brain death, so too may "Information-theoretic death" eventually replace brain death as legal consensus? I love reading these concepts in current day scifi–with novels like Altered Carbon and pen and paper role playing games like Eclipse Phase.